We asked two bonus questions – an open space for additional feedback and a section for any new sports leagues you’re looking for. Here are some of the responses we received.
Sports:
“hockey!”
“Summer beach volleyball!”
“A dodgeball league for fall and winter, on Tuesday or Wednesday in downtown Ottawa”
“Women’s hockey”
“Ultimate Frisbee”
“ORS is mostly in the east end/downtown. If you don’t want to play on weekends there are no west options. It’s very difficult for people coming from the west end to make early games.”
“Casual basketball. I love the sport but I’d like to play in a relaxed environment.”
“Please keep going with the training league – I’ve referred a few people there who want to get better before joining my team!”
“Cool question. Honestly? If you could figure out a way to do archery, I think a lot of people would be into it”
“Pickleball would be so much fun!”
“Squash, handball, padel, ultimate frisbee”
“Multi Sports in West End”
“Would there be an appetite for an actual ball hockey league (wood sticks, hard(er) balls?) I play pickup with friends, and I played some mens leagues years ago that were pretty rough. Hat Trick Ball Hockey has a pretty big league, and pick-up nights too.”
“Bowling maybe? or badminton”
“West end sports of pretty much any kind.”
Response: Definitely have our mind on pickup basketball, West end sports, and continuing training. We are a long way from going into hockey, as that sport requires really good ice contracts. Ultimate is possible eventually.
Oh and we have pickleball, come try it out!
Additional Feedback:
“Hate the 4 fields with no netting in between.”
“Games never started on time and pop up nets need to go.”
“In addition I felt the field was over packed making parking an issue most of the games. It was much nicer when only 3 games were happening at a given time.”
“The four quadrant set up at Lees field was quite frustrating, creating stoppages and chaos frequently.”
“My biggest complaint for the summer season was having the 4th field squeezed in, the amount of time wasted with the ball from all the other fields interfering with the play was ridiculous, also the terrible nets was another big issue the whole team had… for the most part the games were friendly but seemed to get out of hand when refs weren’t putting the effort in calling people out and making sure that the unnecessary elbows and pushing was stop immediately…”
Response: The frustration with the four fields at Lees is understandable. We originally switched to this format because the University hadn’t completed netting on the side of the field facing the highway, and they didn’t want people shooting towards the highway.
Post pandemic with the netting now in place, it is lot of work for staff to do four fields. They are all the same size as the three field format, but there is inevitably more cross-ball confusion. In our early years we would setup barriers in the center of the field, but that takes a lot of work and lifting as well.
The only argument I will make in defense of the four fields is that it reduces the price per team and improves competitive balance. If you can imagine the Wednesday league reducing from 16 teams to 12, it becomes much more likely that there are a few teams at the top or bottom that are too strong or too weak to compete. More teams means more variety and depth of competition.
But we could increase the price about 25% and return to 3 fields and it would be mostly fine. We will discuss this again next summer. If we continue with 4 fields, we will absolutely retire the Bownets for another set of steel nets, and we will see if there’s any simple ball barrier setup we could add.
The other problem is the expansion of the UofO building next to Lees has reduced the parking, making fitting 8 teams worth of cars there sometimes impossible. I do not know if they have any plans to improve that yet.
“The indoor fields for fall/winter soccer are really hard to get to without a car, if there is any field closer to downtown/more accessible it would be great for the future”
“Inside soccer during cold season need to be organized near or at downtown Ottawa to be centralized and accessible. Keep up the great organization, this is a fun league!”
“Again, would love some weekday west end soccer. I’m not available to play on weekends and it’s not possible for me to make the 6pm games at Louis Riel/its 30+ minutes without traffic. Hoping some more west options pop up.”
“I and many of my friends live in Barrhaven, and most games happen either downtown or towards the east end. I would love to play more, but it’s not feasible for me to drive 30-45 minutes each way for a game every week.
Also, about the refs, there were multiple occasions were refs were rude to me even though I am very cordial with them and have never complained about a call. There were also a couple of no-shows and way too many late starts. I pay for 90 minutes but between late starts and early finishes (and breaks which are necessary) many games only had 70 minutes of play time.”
“Thanks for the great season! One note is to please look for venues that people can use public transit to get to. The games we had that were rescheduled to Louis Riel we often had players who couldn’t come simply because they couldn’t get there without having a vehicle.
We also lost a player anytime the games were indoors due to covid concerns. So ideally for outdoor leagues any replacements are at outdoor fields. Real grass is fine in my opinion! Actually for that matter, if you can find cheaper and more central grass fields I bet there would be a lot of interest.”
Response: This is a tough one, I am always hunting for downtown venues, as I know they’re the only ones accessible to friend groups all over the city. But the venues are limited and the contracts are hard to acquire. This and expanding to more cheap west end space are definitely in our goals.
I generally recommend anyone who can’t access the east fields look at our gym league options, right now our volleyball leagues are all downtown Monday, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. I’d be happy to add recreational gym soccer to this grouping, but in the past that has attracted only very competitive male players.
“Some teams had much larger rosters (almost enough for 2 teams) thus giving them a lot more substitutions. We had to forfeit games due to insufficient players and were not able to find subs in time”
“1) I find a lot of teams call up subs, even if they have 1 sub. The subs, not surprising, are often really good/competitive players. Even if our team has 1 sub, we don’t call up extra players. It would be nice if this was more regulated.”
“My only feedback would be how skilled the teams are, as in their high quality of play. There are so many really good players. Which is great but at the same time, as a basic player, it is intimidating. I regularly feel like I’m playing way over my skill level. I assume it’s because players just want to play soccer and will sign up in the 2 divisions. But yeah, it can be a bit much when I just want to play and not feel like I’m in their way.”
Response: Stricter subbing rules and a better way to check players levels are the right fit for their placement are a big priority for us in our next tech upgrade. We realize it’s causing a lot of frustration where teams don’t find their matches fair, and the refs don’t have the tools/power to resolve it. We are wrestling with finding a clean solution that doesn’t lead to slower game starts or more delays/disputes.
“Plays resulting in an injury should automatically lead to AT LEAST a yellow card. Even if unintentional. Drawing blood should automatically be a red card no matter what. It’s rec ffs, nobody needs to aggressively tackle to the point of injuring the opponent. Refs letting people continue to play without even a hint of recourse (in 90% of the cases) after an opposing player has to walk/get carried off the field is very disappointing.”
Response: I agree that anything reckless/dangerous should either result in a card or the player should be pulled aside by the ref and given a warning/direction. I don’t believe in automatic yellows for players drawing blood, as two identical, accidental fouls can have opposite outcomes. We want refs to punish the moment they see someone who is playing too recklessly for the level or makes a foul where they have no angle on the ball, but if the player is reckless because they lack the underlying skills to move around properly, not due to malice, then they should be given guidance by the refs and by their teammates first.
Please do not overbook the teams sessions. Having multiple breaks throughout the summer and then having to do double headers was awful and not enjoyable.
“I also didn’t like the schedule where my team was off for an entire week just to play two games back to back 2 weeks after. It seems that there are always too many teams participating.”
Response: This is a fair complaint. It’s my intention not to overbook the fields again, as the byes/doubles and added fields were hard on the staff and the teams. We have implemented a preregistration system so that when we hit the cap/cutoff everyone will understand if they registered too slowly. Occasionally byes will still be needed when there are forfeits/reschedules but we should not be baking them into the system just to fit more teams in.
“the organization seems pretty gender bias, figure out your inclusion for non-binary and make it a more welcoming environment”
Response: My outlook is that everyone anywhere should be allowed to be a part of our community regardless of race, religion, gender, skill level, beliefs, etc. The only thing we discriminate based on is age, and that you are capable of playing safely in the community while treating teammates, opponents and refs with respect. Gender is a complex issue that hits a number of triggers across society, particularly in sports, so how we handle every dispute will be a case-by-case discussion. If you see something you think we could be doing better please always feel welcome to reach out to me directly to discuss it.